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Fleedle: What about no shutdown sweden? doing ok

Fleedle: Non-COVID-19 outcomes: Public health experts use the term “excess deaths” to describe deaths from all causes in a given interval when comparing with the number of expected deaths based on historic patterns. From 2020 to 2023, excess deaths were elevated in every developed country but were up only 5% in Sweden compared with between 10% and 15% in the U.S. Many excess U.S. deaths can be attributed to lockdowns and include deaths of despair — suicides, drug overdoses and alcoholism — and deaths resulting from delayed health care. Sweden almost certainly avoided many of the deaths associated with lockdowns in the U.S. The most important outcome difference between the U.S. and Sweden was in children’s education. Prolonged U.S. school closures caused educational damage to students not seen in Sweden. Beginning in March 2020, public schools in the U.S. closed, sending 50 million students home. Some private and religious schools, as well as some schools in Florida, opened up in the second half of 2020, but as many as half of all American public school students stayed out of school until the second half of 2021.