UncleJesse: Better the devil you know...

Riverrat: Well at least Hillary's numbers are going up in one area.

UncleJesse: In other news...Marco Rubio wants to eliminate Obamacare but he signed up himself for it. Ted Cruz rails against NY values, but his wife is a investment manager at Goldman Sachs and he took $1 million in loans from Goldman Sachs and Citibank.

Riverrat: ^You can't defend Hillary so you have to some up with some bullshit on Republicans.

UncleJesse: I don't trust any politician, but better the devil you knowx so I'll stick with Hitlery.

Riverrat: I don't know where you got your info about Rubio but even without looking it up I can say that's incorrect. He's a U.S. Senator so he would be getting the healthcare that the government provides to U.S. Senators. And I don't know what Ted Cruz's wife working for Goldman Sachs and taking out loans has to do with NY values.

gettheledout: Rubio gets Obamacare because it was put into the law that congress isn't exempt from what they force on us. Most people in congress who don't have health care through a spouses employment or a plan they earned through a benefits package such as retirement have insurance through the government exchanges because that's the law

gettheledout: As far as Cruz, he did secure large loans from citi and Sachs which coincided with his senate campaign so there is the appearance of impropriety there

gettheledout: I'm not sure what " New York values" mean but judging from my trip there urinating in the street in the middle of a traffic jam is one of them

gettheledout: Criticizing Rubio over obamacare is like criticizing Ron Paul for wanting to reign in the Fed because he has a bank account, it's a nonsense argument

UncleJesse: I just think that if Rubio hates Obamacare enough to want to emiminate it for all Americans it seems odd that he'd sign up for it himself, even if that was his default option through his employer. He could have refused the coverage and gone with a private plan. If he gets elected, he'd get super-Obamacare, and you better believe he'd accept that, costing the government $100's of thousand per year. So, if Rubio can benefit from government care, he gladly accepts, yet he wants to deny that to others (99% of which don't have the salary and corresponding choices he has).

gettheledout: I don't think anyone in congress "gladly" accepts obamacare for their healthcare choices. They would all love to still have the Cadillac plan they had. But forcing congress to accept obamacare for their own healthcare was one of the few points the GOP won during that debate. So he's living under the rules they set. BTW, with the tax on the Cadillac plans cancelled and large insurers threatening to leave the exchanges obamacare will collapse on itself in the next couple years. State exchanges are failing, young healthy people are paying the fine rather than the exorbitant fees. The only success is Medicaid and with the variables needed to offset the massive increase in Medicaid all turning out to be a bust it will fail. They should have never put in that you can't be denied insurance for pre existing conditions, that is what will ultimately kill it

Fleedle: If Hillary doesn't get indicted then everything is a big fucking joke

snippy: agrees^

Riverrat: Even if they decided not to indite Hillary everything she's done points to extreme incompetence in running things. Just the idea that she thought it would be good to have her own email server is stupid. It does help with her being able to communicate and say things illegally and not get caught, providing she cleaned those communications off the server.

snippy: http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/21/former-sec-def-robert-gates-odds-are-pretty-high-russia-china-and-iran-accessed-hillarys-server-video/

Fleedle: Cruz took some loans to finance a campaign and its a scandal. Hillary making $600k in a year from speaking fees from the same bank? Nothing to see here. Nobody even goes to her free campaign rallies! (and she has received $760k in political donations from that same bank over the years.) The media is so biased its also a complete joke.

BigJay: ^ Agreedt